SMG's in BUA"s

1) SMG stands and airborne stands receive ROF 3 at range "C"
2) SMG's are noted to be excellent in assaults and urban fights.
3) In the rules, ALL combat in BUA"s is at 1" range, nullifying the utility of SMG in the very environment in which there are reported to excel...????!!!!!!

WHAT! How can this be ????

This must be an oversight; please, some one clarify and explain.
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Erif,

Actually, the rule you are quoting (rule 14.1 on page 43), if you read the full text, states:

"Combat within a BUA (except for Close Assaults – Rule 16.5) is always conducted between adjacent sectors with an assumed range of one inch."

So, since "C" range is close assault, you will see that the SMG still retains its utility. It simply means that the stand must be in the same sector as the opposing stand.

The only oversight, I'm afraid, is on your part.

You just made my argument , thanks

GM stating that you can not enter same BUA to close assault as all fighting in a BUA is at 1 inch.
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RAW, the GM is incorrect. Fighting that takes place between adjacent sectors, i.e. one stand is in the west sector and the other stand is in the north sector, the range is 1 inch.

If you are attempting to close assault the enemy, then the range is "C".

he was not allow me to enter sector till there were no enemy left, thereby not allowing me to ever reach C
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Yeah - not correct. You can close assault the enemy sector, but the sector can only hold 2 stands.

This is a little fiddly, but basically if there are already two enemy stands in the sector, then you can close assault them, but you can't enter the sector until at lease one enemy stand is eliminated. Your stand remains where it was, but it still counts as range "C".

So for instance:

Two American stands in the west sector, 2 German stands in the north sector. The American stands can close assault the German stands, as long as they were given an advance order (cautious or hasty), but they are not placed in the northern sector. During the combat phase, one German stand and no American stands are eliminated. After morale, assuming both sides pass, one American stand may occupy the northern sector with the German stand.

Or

Two American stands in the west sector, and 1 German stand in the north sector. The American stands can close assault the German stands, as long as they were given an advance order (cautious or hasty), one stand is placed in the northern sector, the other is not. During the combat phase, one German stand and no American stands are eliminated. After morale, assuming both sides pass, the American stand that was not originally in the northern sector may occupy it.

Or

Two American stands in the west sector, 2 German stands in the north sector. The American stands can close assault the German stands, as long as they were given an advance order (cautious or hasty), but they are not placed in the northern sector. During the combat phase, no German stands and one American stand are eliminated. After morale, assuming both sides pass, the remaining stand remains in the western sector, but is still in close assault with the German stand.

If the American stands are not considered to actually enter the sector, then can other German stands adjacent to the sector the Americans are attempting to enter fire at the Americans? Whether or not the Germans have SMGs...

John Drye

John.

Yes the can fire at them.